Talk:City of Pensacola

Can we try to locate an accurate map featuring current city limits? dcosson ··· talk 11:11, 10 November 2007 (CST)

I made a map taken from the Property Appraiser's website.[1] It's pretty accurate to the street level. I wonder if Pensacola city limits should get its own page or just redirect here? --Admin 13:15, 10 November 2007 (CST)

Nice!!! I think it could merit its own article, discussing the expansion/changes to the limits over the years. dcosson ··· talk 15:33, 10 November 2007 (CST)

Dates of incorporation

I'm finding all sorts of dates regarding when Pensacola was incorporated as a city. It's complicated by amendments to the act(s) of incorporation (by both U.S. and Florida legislatures, apparently), the adoption of (and amendments to) the Florida constitution(s), etc., etc., ad nauseum. It would be nice to have the dates, but damned if I know how to sort them out. — admin • talk  17:38, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

It's complicated. It has been incorporated, dissolved, and reincorporated several times. I think the City considers its original incorporation to be when Jackson established city limits, although Florida was a new U.S. territory, and there was no legal incorporation procedure, etc. That was in 1821. In 1885, the State Legislature revoked Pensacola's charter (although I don't know if that refers to a charter granted by Jackson with his authority as territorial governor, or something passed after statehood in 1845). In 1895 Pensacola was reincorporated with a new charter. The same thing happened again in 1913 and 1931. — dscosson • talk  18:42, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, the thing is, none of the dates I've been finding are even the ones related to the charter or listed on the seal. In an 1875 federal suit, Milner's Administrator v. City of Pensacola, the judge mentions that "Pensacola was incorporated as a town by a special but public act of the legislature passed in 1839. By another special act in 1856, it was incorporated as the city of Pensacola." Then the state constitution of 1868 set up a new "uniform system of county, township, and municipal government," and Pensacola officials apparently reorganized the government after this and tried to disavow all previous city debts (thus the lawsuit). So while digging around for that 1839 date, I found some Senate records that... well, just look for yourself. It's a record of legislation from Florida's territorial council, and the following dates are all given for acts to incorporate (or to amend acts to incorporate) the City of Pensacola "and improve the public roads in the neighborhood thereof":

• June 28, 1823
• December 10, 1824
• December 3, 1825
• December 10, 1825
• January 6, 1827
• November 21, 1829
• February 16, 1833 ("and to repeal the act entitled 'An act to incorporate the city of Pensacola, and improve the public roads in the neighborhood thereof,' approved December 5, 1825")
• February 11, 1837 ("to amend the charter of the city of Pensacola")
• March 2, 1839 ("and repeal the act entitled 'An act to incorporate the city of Pensacola, and improve the public roads in the neighborhood thereof,' approved February [??], 1833")

Yikes! — admin • talk  19:22, 4 February 2009 (UTC)